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INTJ FAQ

Journal Entry: Mon Aug 26, 2013, 7:30 PM
  • Listening to: Powerwolf - We Drink Your Blood
  • Reading: Shut up, stop whining and get a life
  • Drinking: Hi-C
We're smart.
37% of INTJs have IQ's that place us in the top 2% of the general population. We are visionaries, strategic (and compulsive) planners, big-picture thinkers, complex problem solvers, adept decision makers, conceptualists, theorists, and pattern recognizers – in short, we are "masterminds" [insert evil mastermind laugh here].

We don't do feelings.
We use critical thinking, reason, and logic. We have a tough time with people who make decisions based on emotions, and we can often come across as blunt and cold because we ignore the feelings of others. But on the plus side, we take criticism well since we have no feelings to hurt. It is very difficult to offend or insult us. Often times we'll even take your insult as a compliment.

We live inside our heads.
We frequently zone out. We get lost in thought and spend much of our time inside our heads. If our immediate reality becomes boring, we will retreat into our minds, and you might have to shout our names repeatedly to get our attention so we will come out again. And no, sorry, but you can't come into our heads with us. You wouldn't last five minutes there. You'd be driven insane by the nonstop cacophony of overlapping voices madly free-associating from one idea to the next.

We are self-confident.
No type is more self-confident than the INTJ. We have a very keen awareness of our own knowledge and abilities, and – more importantly – of the limits of our knowledge and abilities. Consequently we can come across as arrogant sometimes. This is your problem to deal with, not ours, since it is a problem of erroneous perception (yours).

We are aloof.
Because we are somewhat detached from reality, because we are introverted (we find interacting with people to be tiring and tiresome), because we are very private, and because we are impassive, we tend to come across as rather reserved and aloof. Okay, we actually are reserved and aloof.


Do's and Don'ts (mostly Don't's):

DON'T ask one of us a question unless you really want a truthful answer. We will not sugarcoat it for you, and we don't tell white lies to spare anyone's feelings. Do you really, truthfully want to know if those jeans make your ass look fat? Normal person's response: "Um, no, you look fine. Really." Honest person's response: "Well… maybe a different belt would help?" INTJ's response: "No, it's not the jeans that make your ass look fat; it's your fat ass that makes your ass look fat."

DON'T express an opinion to us unless you are prepared to back it up with sound arguments and well pedigreed facts and evidence. Otherwise do not be surprised when we logically shred your opinion for you and hand it back to you in tatters.

DON'T be repetitive. We have absolutely no patience for that. There's no need to cover old ground, and we heard you the first time, unless we were zoning out. And if we were zoning out it's probably because you started repeating yourself.

DON'T take 100 words to say what could have been said in 10. Content-free speech will cause an INTJ to zone out faster than repeating yourself.

DON'T engage us in "small talk". Keep in mind that you are competing for our attention with all the voices in our heads, and they are bound to be far more interesting than you. The voices are constantly regaling us with things like anagrams of Wayne Newton (Wanton Weeny, We Annoy Newt, New Yawn Tone, …) and candidate titles for parodies of "Carry On My Wayward Son" ("Cary Grant Was Six Foot One", "Curry On My Egg Foo Yung", …). Do you really think your talk of the weather or your six year old's soccer league is going to be more compelling than that? Please. Be realistic.

DON'T look at an INTJ in bewilderment when he/she discloses an idea to you. Yes, it may have required a double somersault of imagination to reach their conclusion. Ask them to take you through it step-by-step; they will happily oblige. Ideas are of ultimate importance to an INTJ, and it is a compliment for them to share their ideas with you. Similarly, failing to give due attention to an INTJ's idea is a high form of insult.

DO… um… well, we thought there should be at least one "DO" but we can't think of one. Oh, how about this: DO keep it short.


Q: Where can I find an INTJ?

A: We INTJs are über-introverts, so we prefer asynchronous and semi-anonymous forms of communication. We get most of our socialization through internet forums and Usenet newsgroups. Look for us there.

Q: Can I become an INTJ?

A: Unless you are born an INTJ, your only hope is to find a genie lamp while strolling on the beach, rub it, and make a wish. You can fake being one of us by burying yourself in a mound of books, nerding out on a favorite subject (like quantum mechanics, not needlepoint), wandering around by yourself, not giving a damn what others think of you, etc. If this sounds like too much work, just try doing a good robot impersonation.

Q: How can I break up with my INTJ?

A: Tell us the truth. We'll reply, "Sure, why not?", and go on with our lives.

Q: My INTJ is trying to take over the world. Should I be concerned?

A: Remember, he's trying to take over the world for the betterment of everyone and everything. Just go ahead and let him. He'll be happy and the world will be a more organized and efficient place.

Q: My INTJ just told me I'm retarded. Should I take offense?

A: You probably are retarded, by our standards. But don't take offense. Our standards are so high that even we don't meet them. We judge ourselves more harshly than we judge others.

Q: My INTJ isn't sensitive to my feelings. Should I take offense?

A: We aren't even sensitive to our own feelings. Why should we be expected to be sensitive to yours? We won't even try to fake it. Insincerity is a pet peeve of ours, and anyway, it would ruin our reputation if we ever showed emotion.

Q: Why doesn't my INTJ ever show emotions or feelings?

A: Because he doesn't have any. Actually, that's not strictly true; it's just that we tend to get emotional about things you might not appreciate. INTJs have been known to cry during the liftoff scene in "Apollo 13", for example, and there are also many touching moments in some of the Star Trek movies. An INTJ may also smile or laugh at random for no apparent reason; probably one of the voices in his head just made a good joke.

Q: My INTJ doesn't care about me any more after he tried to explain his idea and I didn't listen. What should I do?

A: Ideas are of prime importance to INTJs, and disregarding or not listening to our ideas is the highest form of insult. Although INTJs do not hold grudges, neither do we go out of our way to associate with people who don't give serious consideration to our ideas. You'll be in damage control mode for quite some time, fighting an uphill battle to get back into our good graces.

Q: My INTJ won't talk to me. What should I do?

A: What subjects are you trying to talk about? Most INTJs hate gossip, and all of us hate talk of relationships. We also don't do small talk. Try quantum physics, psychology, or some other deep (but non-touchy/feely) topic. If all else fails, try email instead.

Q: Why does my INTJ keep correcting my grammar?

A: Probably because you are being grammatically incorrect. The next time you tell your INTJ that you're going to "try and [do something]", prepare to get bitch-slapped. It's "try to", not "try and". And there's no such word as "irregardless". Words have specific meanings, and language has specific rules; please abide by them. And don't even get us started on your contextually ambiguous use of pronouns.

Q: I have this REALLY good idea… should I tell an INTJ?

A: Sleep on it… for a week or so. If it's still so appealing, sleep on it for another week. Then maybe run it by one of us and we'll pick it apart for you. Your idea is more likely to survive our scrutiny relatively unscathed if you have actual logical arguments and sound evidence with which to back it up.

Q: Is it dangerous to annoy an INTJ?

A: First we will ignore you, then we will launch a volley of extremely witty but esoteric insults that will probably go right over your head, and finally we will just engage the "nod-and-smile" autopilot and go back to ignoring you. Best to leave us alone at this point. If you push us too far we may blow up your head with our telekinetic abilities. So, yes, it can be dangerous to annoy an INTJ.

Q: What are the pet peeves of INTJs?

A: Thanks for asking. Our pet peeves are:

* We dislike surprises.
* We hate having decisions made for us. We're INTJs; nobody is more qualified to make decisions than us.
* We dislike getting gifts, as it burdens us with the need to reciprocate.
* We hate small talk, gossip, and relationship/people talk. Really anything mundane is beneath us.
* We get particularly annoyed by attacks on our intelligence, competence, and integrity.
* We hate it when people try to manipulate us.
* Insincerity and lying.
* People interfering with our alone time.
* People who are chronically late.
* People who talk incessantly. We will just engage our "nod and smile" autopilot and mentally go somewhere else.
* People who are stupid, arrogant, opinionated, and/or closed minded.
* Crooked/badly placed pictures.
* Superficiality (body piercings, pimped out cars, brightly colored anything).
* Salespeople. INTJs are immune to emotional manipulation and have zero tolerance for lines of bullshit.
* Incorrect grammar and word usage.
* People who waste our time (see Salespeople, people interfering with our alone time, etc.).
* Social Niceties. We do not bother with such unnecessary things. No need for "Hi how you doing? Nice weather." Our conversations usually start with, "Did you notice in that Star Trek episode that a whole race was killed and no one noticed? I thought it was funny."  Why waste time with pointless introductions when you already know said person and it's best to get to the heart of the matter?

Q: My INTJ keeps disappearing. Is this normal?

A: Yes. We need our "alone time" to recharge, more so than any of the other introverted MBTI types. Being around people for very long sucks the life force out of us, and we sneak off to be by ourselves whenever our "low battery" warning light starts to flash. (And in those cases where we can't disappear physically, we will retreat into our minds.) Consequently we have great stealth capability; we can sit in a corner, observing while being unobserved, and we can escape, unnoticed, when we're ready to move on.

Q: Why can't my INTJ remember anything?

A: This is normal. Most of us INTJs are very forgetful. We have too much going on in our heads at any time to remember a lot of new stuff. Also, we zone out and go into autopilot mode quite frequently. We often won't remember where we put our car keys because we weren't "there" when we did it.

Q: My INTJ employee consistently strolls into work an hour late and leaves an hour late, every day. He/she seems to make their own hours, however the job gets done rather well. Should I feel disrespected?

A: Time is relative to the INTJ, and getting the job done right is paramount. We do not like wasting our time, so we will often adjust our schedules accordingly to miss AM and PM rush-hour traffic. The more traffic we miss, the more time we have for books, movies, video games, books, message boards, books, etc. You should feel disrespected, although it has nothing to do with them not honoring your work rules; it has to do with them not thinking you are particularly smart or competent. If you were smart/competent, you wouldn't be going on about getting your wittle bitty feewings hurt by your disrespectful but high-performing INTJ employee.

Q: My INTJ is very pedantic.

A: Strictly speaking, that's not a question.

Q: Dammit, see what I mean?

A: Yes, the irony was not lost on me as I typed the previous answer.

Q: And sarcastic as hell, too.

A: Sarcasm is a free public service we provide to those within earshot. No need to thank us. We also do irony, hyperbole, word-play and puns, one-liners, quick-witted observations and flippant remarks, and abstract and deep philosophical insights on nonsensical themes. Our sense of humor tends to be dry, warped, and morbid, and not everybody "gets" us.

Q: Why does my INTJ just "shut down" at the end of the day?

A: Our minds are always buzzing with plans and theories, and we cannot voluntarily get it to stop. But even an Indy 500 car will coast to a halt after it runs out of gas. When we are very tired our brains slow down, and we become normal or even a bit retarded. If we start asking you to repeat what you just told us but more slowly this time, and/or if we can no longer perform simple routine tasks like computing an orbital transfer burn or finding a memory leak in 10,000 lines of C++ code, you know it's time for us to call it a day.

Q: Why is my INTJ so… well, so freakin' WEIRD??!?

A: It's probably just a side effect of the way our brains work. Many of us tend to be rather obsessive-compulsive, for instance ordering our cd's, dvd's, and books by genre then alphabetically (by title for dvd's, by group then title for cd's, and by author then title for books, except for series which must be kept in appropriate serial order). Most of us have other quirks as well, e.g., always eating M&M's in a specific color order, naming our children in alphabetical order, etc. It's a small price to pay for genius, really.

Q: Why does my INTJ just start nodding and smiling after we've been talking for a couple of minutes?

A:

Q: I said, WHY DOES MY INTJ START NODDING AND… Oh I get it, you're being sarcastic again. Does it ever get old?

A: [ hey, more Wayne Newton anagrams… We Want On Yen, Ant On New Yew, Way None Went… ]

Q: Hello? Are you going to answer any more questions?

A: [ … "Hair Salon For Stray Nerd Nuns", "Larry Moe and Curly's On", "Karaoke's Not That Fun", "Harry Potter's Gay Stepson", … ]

Q: Asshole. I'm outta here.

A: [ works every time ;-) ]

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For me I hate repeating myself more than people being repetitive.  Why weren't they listening to start with?  It took a lot of energy for me to think up a response and then say it only to have to remember how I said it again and try to be consistent. But yes people that repeat too much irk me too.
As for gifts I love them and will always take them.  But yes I do feel the need to reciprocate...provided I care about the giver to begin with.



Be willing to back up your statements with facts - or at least some pretty sound reasoning.

Don't expect them to respect you or your viewpoints just because you say so. INTJ respect must be earned.

Be willing to concede when you are wrong. The average INTJ respects the truth over being "right". Withdraw your erroneous comment and admit your mistake and they will see you as a very reasonable person. Stick to erroneous comments and they will think you are an irrational idiot and treat everything you say as being questionable.

Try not to be repetitive. It annoys them.

Do not feed them a line of bull.

Expect debate. INTJs like to tear ideas apart and prove their worthiness. They will even argue a point they don't actually support for the sake of argument.

Do not mistake the strength of your conviction with the strength of your argument. INTJs do not need to believe in a position to argue it or argue it well. Therefore, it will take more than fervor to sway them.

Do not be surprised at sarcasm.

Remember that INTJs believe in workable solutions. They are extremely open-minded to possibilities, but they will quickly discard any idea that is unfeasible. INTJ open-mindedness means that they are willing to have a go at an idea by trying to pull it apart. This horrifies people who expect oohs and ahhs and reverence. The ultimate INTJ insult to an idea is to ignore it, because that means it's not even interesting enough to deconstruct.

Let me add that if we've tried something and know it doesn't work then if some idiot brings it up again and insists he is right he will be shot down. This makes us look like we don't listen but we've already tried it no need.

This also means that they will not just accept any viewpoint that is presented to them. The bottom line is "Does it work?" - end discussion.

Do not expect INTJs to actually care about how you view them. They already know that they are arrogant bastards with a morbid sense of humor. Telling them the obvious accomplishes nothing.

This last point is what can destroy a feeling type. They are so busy caring about what other think or that what they think matters. Calling us names, especially if they are true names, have no effect on us. Some of us will even take them as compliment. "Oh you noticed? Good for you. Thank you." They wish they were as confident as we are.

Is God really an INTJ as you have been hearing?
Yes. God is the Ultimate INTJ. If you have any doubts, ask an INTJ. *grin!*

INTJ Prayer:
* God, let me be open to other people's views, *
WRONG though they may be.

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:iconthegreatmythlover:
TheGreatMythlover Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Good to know all this!
I'm a INFP.
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for checking it out.  Oh, I'm glad we get along then. I haven't had much luck with INFP's.
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Kirbymyfriend972 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It is hard to you to being an INTJ?
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Not at all. I find it easy. I LOVE being INTJ. The world is so interesting to me and full of possibilities.
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Kirbymyfriend972 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Have you ever met an ISTP?, and yes your personality being kind of rare, the World is full of posibilities to you
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
I think I have but only online.  I don't remember who they were. 
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Kirbymyfriend972 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh ok so I made the personality types in two websites and it gave me the same result I thought that they would be different :| :stare:
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
That's good. Then you're consistent and there should be no confusion.
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Kirbymyfriend972 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks , then I didn't changed?
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Colonel-Motivation Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
All that stupid stuff aside, this is actually a well-written journal, I wish there was one for INTPs that I could share around :XD:
It's a good read for those who want to become your friends too. You should have it on your front page as a link to avoid any more pointless posters. 
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you. It is. It's on the profile here and on Leeanix. 
And there is. The INTP one is even more in depth and well written than this one.

www.intp.org/intprofile.html
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Colonel-Motivation Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah that's right, I forgot I've seen it before :'D
It is a long read, I have to sit down and look through it. 
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Randi-lovesArt Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh. So this is what an INTJ is? I didn't know what they were until now.
Actually. Have you met an ISFJ person besides me before?
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
You have until 8pm tonight to un-hide the two comments you left here.
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Randi-lovesArt Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Alright. There back up.
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Yes. Some of my good friends here are INTJ's too.  Yes I have met other ISFJ's.

Since you're a member of the group Inside Out Villain's we have a rule about not blocking the admins so we can announce things to all our members. If you wish to remain there you must unblock my other account. There was no reason to have blocked it in the first place and not if you want to keep commenting.
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Randi-lovesArt Featured By Owner Edited Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why should I unblock you?
You deserve to be blocked, your going to suffer just like what you did to me. This is revenge.

You don't even care about my art, so why should I care about yours now?

You don't understand anything about Me or my Friends. Think about the positives more.

I'm leaving the group and possibly the fandom because of you.

I won't let anyone tear me to shreds. You changed my heart, you gave me depression, fear and rage. I can't think about anything positive ever again. 
People are worried about me in RL.

As nice and kind as I can be, I'm going to get aggressive on you and your really going to get it this time! You won't get any pity from me.

But at the same time, I want this misery to stop... Somebody help me. I beg of you to stop my 1 week depression. Rage 
I just want to be back to the way I was again.

Your here to hurt me, because I'm harmless, emotional and defenseless to you.

I don't want anyone looking at my page.

I am not sorry and think about what you've done to me.
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Gamma-Wings Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is hilarious. The reason you're getting all this "bad treatment" is because you were doing a lot of wrong yourself, and only have yourself to blame. 

I saw how in your journal you wrote a line clearly targeted at Thag: "BTW, I secretly dislike INTJ's. Because there just arrogant, jerky, insensitive, and hurtful people who hurt the innocence and there reputation, as well as changing there hearts and or acts". You may say it's not directed at anyone, but it's clear who you were referring to and what set you off to write that. You were angry at Thagirion for being "mean" even though she was just saying the truth. There are good ISFJs out there who get along well with INTJs, but clearly you're not among them. I'm an INTP BTW so pretty close to INTJs, and almost the polar opposite of your type. And like INTJs, we'll stand up for our friends and point out those who are wrong. We don't sugar coat either, so what you're receiving is pure honesty in accordance to the facts I have. 

The way you reacted here was totally unnecessary and far too tied to emotion. Listen to reason for once. It's clear you're acting on pure emotion and not even thinking things through, which you'll regret doing in several days time. Thag alone didn't give you depression and rage, you brought that along yourself by being so petty and emotional. You call this revenge? Ha. Frankly getting blocked isn't as big a deal as you make it to be. People get blocked, so what. It's the internet. You'll still have friends if you're stable enough. Actually flame wars are a crucible and help determine the good from the bad. The bad all burns away. 

Ok, leave the fandom if you wish. Clearly you weren't able to handle it. Also, no one wants your pity so it's fine we won't get any from you. Also no one was here to originally hurt you, Thag gave you a chance to become a friend and you screwed that up. As for not understanding ISFJs, trust me both Thag and I know what your type is like. Thag more so than me I admit. But one thing we do is give the same treatment to all who dare attack us, we fight back. It doesn't matter who it is if they seriously wrong us, we'll defend ourselves. 

Also, it was wrong of you to leave a false apology to Thag when clearly you didn't mean it. That right there is lying. If you truly meant it none of this would have happened. 
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Randi-lovesArt Featured By Owner Edited Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You know, I'm actually seeing where your going here.
(I'm using actual thinking BTW)
Nobody did anything wrong, other then me.
Your right that I was wrong about everything and it was also wrong to tell lies at everyone. (I don't like telling lies at anyone)

I could've just simply unblock her and that was it and then the'll be no drama. But nope, I snapped instead which made things worse.

How do I not understand ISFJ's? Is there something I missed or didn't see?

(Ok, that journal part I wrote was a bit too much, I agree.)

I always protect myself from negativity but I always fail.

Should I get some mental help?
I have school counselors and Family.

Emotions seem to get into my thinking for some reason.

The funny thing is, if I sent any White Knights against you guys, It would surely be ugly.

Isn't Emotions are what Inside Out is about? I joined the fandom because I loved the movie, and I was very emotional.

What in God's name have I done? What am I even doing?  Face Palm emote 
What am I going to do now so I can redeem myself?
What can I do?

I don't do thinking often when it comes to situations. 

I really do regret on everything I said. I always beat myself up on everything.
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Gamma-Wings Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm glad you're seeing my point here. Indeed you were the one who did the wrong, no one else. 
Yes that was wrong of you to lie to Thag and everyone else. 

You could have indeed, but it's too late for that now. I don't think you can redeem yourself now, as you snapped at others one too many times I've noticed. 

Where did I say you don't understand ISFJs? But as for the journal, it's just another example of you listening to your emotions. 

Indeed you do. It's best to just apologize and right yourself before it's too late. Snapping at others does nothing but harm. 

Yes it'll definitely be ugly... for them. If you sent anyone against us we'll pound them into ground beef. 

No not only. Inside Out is about more things than just emotions. At least I care about the other aspects more, like psychology and biology. 

Then think more. It'll do you more good than just going over the top emotional. 
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Randi-lovesArt Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know I'm smarter then this, by doing too many bad things in January. But I'm being dumb and I'm not thinking more.
I'm the jerk here.

I wouldn't send people to argue at anyone anyways. That would be me, being crazy and it would prove I'm defenseless.
Its frickin dumb.

I already know whats going on. What I'm doing is wrong, I know its wrong, but I do it anyway?

You said "There are good ISFJs out there who get along well with INTJs, but clearly you're not among them."

And 
 "As for not understanding ISFJs."
Which made me thought of what I said.
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Both Gamma and myself are right and have been right. You should listen. But go  listen somewhere else. Remember I told you you would never reach the status of friend with me and frankly you blew it a long time ago. You  could have had a great ally in me. Now you do  not. You had your chance and you blew it.  I told you I would not cuddle you.  This sounds to me like excuses.  You are always all over the place and after this you will be angry again. You still have not fixed your past errors and at this point I do not care.  Since you're a Christian here is a verse you should seriously take into account.

Deuteronomy 24:16 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

Short version is it means Every man is responsible for his own actions.  I have no fear because I have done no wrong. You on the other hand have made many grave errors.  Depression, rage, fear those are your vices you need to fix.  Not my problem.  Another fact is you need to learn to live with the consequences of your actions.  In this case I am asking you to leave. You have nothing to offer me.  And best you stay away from my friends as well. You have annoyed many for your misbehavior. You have already lost more than you know.
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Gamma-Wings Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well it's too late to redeem yourself now. It's hard to say if any of us trust you, since you already lied about your apology once. 
I don't see why you continue to do this then. Yes what you're doing is wrong. Since you already have no chances left with Thagirion, it may be best for you to spend time elsewhere. 
You completely misunderstood what I tried to say, then. Since neither of those implied you understood ISFJs poorly. 
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Revenge? Foolish child.  You are the one that started talking to me.  I even let you have the last word. Remember when I told you you'd lost more than me?  Guess what?  :iconrollertroller699: stopped watching you for your screw up with me weeks ago.  Why do you think you only saw his stuff on the group and missed everything else? See he and I are real friends and now you stand to lose even more.  I knew your previous apology was a lie. You're unstable and unfit to be on the internet so yes please do leave the fandom.  I  am not suffering.  I am not as pathetic as you are.  Leaving the group saves us the trouble of removing you.    But I have the truth so whatever lies you may spread from here out I am not worried. Feel free to blame me for your problems.  I can take it. If it helps you feel good that I'm the "bad guy" then no problems here.  You are the one that dug your own grave.  No one sane will help you because you are the one that has been doing wrong from the start by turning on good friends, not listening to your fellow Christians, lashing out stupidly and lying.  Only you can make the depression stop because it is a choice and you keep making the wrong ones.  Keep me blocked.  I don't need you. None of us do.  You read this FAQ you know we're no nonsense. BTW, Roller troller's an INTJ too.  Oh and blocking doesn't stop people from looking. 
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Igloo9201 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
This kid is so full of BS that it's hilarious.
I read everything she said, and wow...in one breath, she admits that she made mistakes, but then keeps saying that she's innocent?  And then whines that she's leaving the fandom because of you?  And attention-whores about her "depression" and never wanting negativity.  Reality is full of negativity.  She has no backbone and no grip on the real world.

And lookie here, you guys got a total victory again.  lolitalovemagnificus.deviantar…
She's going and whining to people about you in the comments a little bit too, showed one of her watchers this comment thread.  :XD:
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Yes she sure is.
She loves saying that. She's not innocent. She's guilty as sin and she knows it. That's why she had to hide everything.  She can run away all she wants but she'll commit the same stupid errors with the next group of people because she doesn't learn or listen.

More hipocricy  since she said she wouldn't post anymore journals but she makes that one and links to us. Well it will only serve to show how she screwed up.  That's the watcher she blew up on just like she did here with me.   She an blow up on everyone. Her friend has told her before how she's wrong and again she agrees with us she needs to think.  What I said was nothing to get all upset about.  It was about the rules of the group and she went off like a crazy person so now she gets it worse. Even her friends can see she's wrong there. Anyway I was right again. I KNEW she'd do this and she still hasn't left.
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Igloo9201 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
She really is!  Her social skills are horrible, she just needs to leave the Internet for good because she can't handle it.

Yep.  Such a liar.  
Wow, she's just a sucky person.  As soon as a "friend" says anything she doesn't want to hear, she flips out.  You really didn't say anything that is at all negative or upsetting, and yet she went ballistic and whines that you're driving her away from the fandom. Well good because it's better off without her anyways.  And like you said, she hasn't even deactivated yet.  Sounds like that was an empty threat so that what few friends she has left will coddle her and give her free art.
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
Yes I see too many like her that just are not mentally stable to handle online life. Especially when nothing bad was even said to them.

Yes I have no respect for liars and people that turn on their friends. I agree. Any fandom doesn't need people like that. Well at least now I have the record.  It's funny she's trying to get free art out of this. Gosh I haven't seen that since the fights I had with Gamma's ex friends in early 2014.  At least she finally took down my icon. It was funny she had no idea she was advertising me though she had blocked me. I loved that and was keeping that to myself.
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Gamma-Wings Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love how she's now using this as an excuse to get free art. She reminds me of those people who threaten to leave unless they get gift art.
I like that even that friend of hers seems to agree with us... in that she should think more. 
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Igloo9201 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I know, it's so ridiculous.  It's too bad that she's going to come back to dA.  She should just leave for good.
Yes, I thought that was funny.  I love how she said "Yeah I don't really think that much."  No shit.  :XD:
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Gamma-Wings Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It definitely is. Agreed, it would have been best if she left... as the internet clearly isn't for her.
It's pretty obvious that she doesn't think that much. AND she came back for more. Seriously, I don't get why she's doing that. 
Link I think she's this flame warrior. 
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Randi-lovesArt Featured By Owner Edited Jan 26, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Stop, its not an excuse and thats not why I'm leaving. I'm leaving because you told the truth, and then everyone will hate on me. You people just hate me and you want to torment me. Stop making fun of me and that I'm leaving. That honestly upsets me even more.  I don't know whats right. i just want to get out of this misery and this is the right thing to do. I don't know whats right. 
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Gamma-Wings Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then stop coming back here. This is our territory and we're free to discuss this if we please. It's something we always do after flame wars. It would have been a different story if this were on your page, but it's not as we're not that stupid. We wanted to have nothing to do with you and asked you to leave. This was over with and by commenting again you're just reactivating this flame. 

There were times when enemies talked about Thag and I on their own pages, and we realize that they can do that as long as they don't bring it to us. 
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Randi-lovesArt Featured By Owner Edited Jan 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Why did you think I deleted those rants in the first place?

How am I lying? You just don't want to believe anything I said.

I don't want to hurt my reputation any longer, I'm through with you!
I don't need you hurting me no more. I make mistakes, and you don't want to forgive me.
I'm innocent!

I did all of this and the reason why I snapped, was because I wanted to protect myself from negativity.
I didn't want anyone to know the truth and I would keep beating myself.

Really? How am I going to end it? I'll do anything to redeem myself. 
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RollerTroller699 Featured By Owner Edited Jan 17, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for showing me this. This will also go into the important folder.
Other than what I said with my comparrisson with Ellie from Up, I also have other similarities to the INTJ FAQ.
I am obsessed with gemstones due to their science, history and mythology surrounding them. I tend to sort out red candy before eating them. I don't like unwanted surprise changes at the last second when I already have something planned. Though I enjoy gift art made for me, I draw gift art because it's a good enough gift for me to draw different characters interacting. I tend to get emotional when I'm put under serious stress or pressure, but that's in real life with people I know, not on the internet. 
I also prefer to start conversations when commenting someone's work or replying to a comment, posting a "Hello! How are you doing today!" on the internet just feels awkward to me.
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
No prob. Thought you might appreciate it.
Ha we do weird things like sorting candy for sure. I hate surprise changes too even if it is a positive change. I have to get used to it.
I love gift art. But that's different.  Yet I do feel the need to return it when I see it. That's just in my nature.   And I'm majorly behind on it.
Yeah it has to be a lot of stress or a lot of joy for us to get emotional. Cute budgies tend to do it for me.
Yeah all those words are so pointless. People just need to say what's really on their mind. No need for start up lines.  Because really I don't care how someone is. I just want to talk about ideas and concepts.
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KurobaFox1412 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, well the more you all know! :thumbsup:

By the way I'm ISTJ. :P
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I wish everyone that watched me would read this.  Would keep them from getting kicked off most likely.

Ah this is good to know. I get along well with ISTJ's.
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KurobaFox1412 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I know right? So that they know how to interact with INTJs, and avoid the "don't"s.

It's because we're only one letter different, I suppose. Though I'm emotionally sensitive. :P
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Yes. That's why I have it posted there for a reason. 

Yes I'm all for the one letter difference rule. I have realized that people get along best with their own type and those that are only one letter different.  For me it's INTP's and ISTJ's I have gotten along with best. Possibly ENTJ too but I have never met one.  They're too busy being "out".  I don't do INFP or ISFP though.  ENFP is irksome too.
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KurobaFox1412 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, I saw on every ID of your different accounts. If only more people noticed it

My boyfriend is ESTJ so it's no big deal for me either. Yeah I don't get along well with ENFP or ISFP (a dA brother of mine is that type and, yep, we fight quite often lol) So I guess that two letter difference or more aren't the types we get along well with.
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, well people don't read and those that don't read well don't do wel around me.

Ah that works well then. You're basically the same type.  My husband is INTP.  Yes those types are very annoying.  You can get along with someone that's two or more letters different. It will just be more work.  I don't think relationships of any kind should be work so I associate only with people that I get along with.  I know that's not always possible in school and work situation though.
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KurobaFox1412 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
And it's not your fault for acting the way they don't like, it's them who should be put to blame for not reading or paying attention to the FAQ. Speaking of that, did you get the FAQ from any specific source or you typed all the entry in your own words?

Cool to know. Yep, that's also me. I only associate with the ones I get along very well with. I'm extremely introverted, haha. Being in a crowded place either bore or tire me out, and I'm always suck at starting a conversation. :P Mom always tells me to go outside and make new friends but that's not my taste. I'm considered stubborn sometimes because of that.
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I got most of it from two places. Don't remember one. The other was an INTJ forum.  And I added my own insights and text as well so it's one big mix of stuff.

I am too. I always get 100% on my I on tests. Proud of that. Also on my T.    If you're happy with the friends you have then you don't need any more.  I'm very slow to make friends because potential candidates need to prove themselves. That usually takes about a year if they make it.  Here I have like 5 close friends and I am satisfied with that. Everyone else has come and gone one way or another.
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ChangerOfWays42 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015
Good to know
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for reading.
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ChangerOfWays42 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015
Yea, well my personality is much different then yours
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Most people are when you're in the 1%.
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ChangerOfWays42 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015
Yeah, but i am an insane, sadistic, psychotic person
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Thagirion Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
That's funny.
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